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    The Great 1.8 Debate

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    Should items/money/etc be transfered over to a new world?

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    jefe323
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    The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by jefe323 on Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:21 pm

    If you haven't heard, 1.8 will probably be dropping in the next couple weeks. It features a wide array of new features like a new mob, npc villages, better dungeons, ravinens, rivers and more. Now the shitty part is since our map is pretty well explored we won't be able to see these new features. Now comes the hard decision...do we bite the bullet and keep on playing with this map, or do we move to a new 1.8 map. Please voice your opinions in the poll and in this thread.

    Some things to consider:
    -I can keep the current world on the server for awhile(so you can transfer items, etc)
    -I can transfer whole buildings/towns over to a new map (if you so wish)

    Edit: updated poll with new question


    Last edited by jefe323 on Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:03 pm; edited 3 times in total

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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Schlichtinator on Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:15 pm

    New map. If things can be transfered, then that is the way to go.
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by henryryckeley on Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:39 pm

    Let go of the past! Embrace the future!
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by SupahTree on Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:56 pm

    I'd be fine with a new map. And no need to transfer Winter's Peak. It's a nice city, but we have to get a new town some day. Next stop River/Ravine town!
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by CEOpotamus on Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:35 pm

    Go for it...
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Sir_Sheep on Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:37 pm

    I was about to say no, but if my town and ranch can be transferred, it makes no difference to me. Although (and I know its not my problem or business), it might be a pain in the behind to transfer all of the towns, homes, and other buildings.

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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by xXProdigalXx on Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:45 pm

    While I do feel a connection to this map I do not have anything of great value to me, and would like to start a fresh new house. Though you may definitively want to check with Ragnas...
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Alec on Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:34 pm

    I voted yes, only because I'm not contempt with my sad little island and I think it can do better. No need to transfer TheLonelyIsland if and when there is a new map.

    Plus I cannot wait for 1.8, and since I dedicate little time to single player (and a lot of time on Republica) it would probably be better (in my opinion) if we switched a map.

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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Schlichtinator on Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:28 pm

    my only gripe is that I spent quite a while setting up the terrain for Carthage. I can always rebuild, but it shall be a pain to do again without some assistance.

    How about a brand new map, but inventories roll over?
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Ragnas on Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:34 pm

    I like the idea of a new map. Maybe with a new map there could be stricter rules on builds. ie. no spawning items if your a Moderator. I mean its nice not actully haveing to work for items, but it keeps the server compleatly legit. Just a thought.

    I am all for new map though so cant wait! I guess ill start stock piling stone coble and other good resources.

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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by xXProdigalXx on Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:07 am

    I see what you did there ragnas >.<
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Ragnas on Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:30 pm

    what? Trying to stop abuse of power? Its 1 thing to say you did it legit its another to actully do something legit.

    I mean there is specail ocasions when things that cant really be harvested or something thats near impossible to get. but things like Cobblestone, smoothstone, dirt... I think it would add more to the MC experience if Mods couldn't give other players items. The only occasion is to fix minor griefs, or griefing in general.
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Earl_Parvisjam on Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:39 pm

    While I'll miss Notch's Cross, I'm not entirely happy with some of its positioning. It'd be nice to start fresh. The chest glitch and rash of griefers really sapped my creativity and enthusiasm. Being unusually busy didn't help..
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by SupahTree on Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:05 pm

    Ragnas: I'm not sure what other mods do. But I don't just give items to any player unless it's for reimbursement. If I do give them an item randomly it's from my own stash of items and I'm just generous Smile.

    But on the note of everything else, I wouldn't mind at all if just everything was wiped (money, items, etc). And everyone started out fresh. Perhaps make a town that everyone spawns in and that's the town everyone will have to join unless they want to live in the wild where pvp is? Then as players earn money from shops and what not they can venture out and start a town. Of course I'm certain not many other players will share this view with me. I just like the idea of starting with nothing and building up to a large town/city over time. There's just something rewarding about that Very Happy
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by UltraInnes on Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:15 pm

    Sir_Sheep wrote:I was about to say no, but if my town and ranch can be transferred, it makes no difference to me. Although (and I know its not my problem or business), it might be a pain in the behind to transfer all of the towns, homes, and other buildings.
    Yeah,I was thining the same,if Ultraville can be transferred,im happy to switch maps! Very Happy
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Ragnas on Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:40 pm

    hoenstly I think moving whole towns would provide more of a hastle. I think that it should be 100% new
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by SupahTree on Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:59 pm

    Yeah, that's how I felt. I just don't see Winter's Peak fitting in anywhere but where it is now
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Ragnas on Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:11 pm

    yeah exactly! Things just need to be a bit more fresh now any ways.
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by WaxCrayon on Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:23 pm

    It both sucks and doesn't at the same time. Whilst I feel a lot has been lost in Jorvik and what we did with it (getting a load of members), I also feel it'd be awesome if during the time that the map went down, it'd be a great time to make those changes to Republica and the towny system.
    i.e. No transfers and everyone starts afresh with nothing and has to actually work to become a genuine town.

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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by xXProdigalXx on Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:28 pm

    I only give items to players if they pay me
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Realirony on Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:33 pm

    I like the idea of starting a new map. 1.8 sounds like its going to be interesting and if we need to start a new map to experience it I'm all for it. Besides, I kind of would like to be around when we all start rebuilding everything so I can chip in and actually help renovate everything. And if Supah decides to make a new "Peak" or Town I'd like to be able to venture out there and help this time around instead of creeping in after its all built XD

    So my vote is yes. Forget the past, embrace the future. lols
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Ragnas on Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:10 pm

    It looks like the verdict is swinging hard and fast towards "yes". Now we must decide weather or not we should be allowed to transfer items over from 1.7 republica to 1.8 republica. I know this will be an even bigger debate then the other. I know now I dont really feel like playing until 1.8 now because I know we are going to switch maps. I embrace the map change.

    But allowing us to gather resource gives us reason to play for the time being. In all honesty I personaly think that being able to switch your items over will take away from a new map experience. We now need a new vote, for either yes or no to being able to switch over anything at all to the new map. Im against it, I woulld like to see a new world built from scratch.

    This would create an even playing field for all of our new members that are already republica enthusiast and feel suppressed by the already established members of the server. I know there is a few Towns that have popped up that would be a great host to new members if they were more widely known.

    Of course with that being said im basically saying "fuck jorvik" but im tired of hearing all the bitching a complaing from others. An even playing ground is what really is needed. Honestly I think the ONLY thing that should be created on the new map with Owner, Admin, or Moderator power is the spawn area. Every thing else should be made legit imo!



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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by danger2012lol on Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:57 pm

    new map makes sense.....wait....does this mean ill need to make a new map in my server to see the new features....?

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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by 123dfed on Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:03 pm

    A new map would be nice.
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    Re: The Great 1.8 Debate

    Post by Realirony on Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:55 pm

    Everything Rag said above me makes a ton of sense and I stand behind him on it. If we start a new map we should def all start on an even playing field. No money xfer, no items, nothing. Everyone should begin anew. Owner and other high rank-ers should make a spawn city that will play the role of sanctuary for everyone to start out in (I remember someone else stating this, but I forget who, either way, credits to them). Perhaps make small apartment complexes in the spawn city that people can begin in, stake claim to, and purchase for minimal price. Maybe small 6x6 rooms with enough space for chests and such, to get on their feet, then when they make some money (which should come with some work and not so easily as it does now) they can strike out into the wilderness and start their own towns or join other towns (whose prices for plots will vary but be more expensive than the Sanctuary town).

    Thats just my 2cent though. Either way I look forward to 1.8 and all of the interesting things it will bring.

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